Why is it that....?

Kinja'd!!! "jkm7680" (jkm7680)
06/22/2016 at 20:18 • Filed to: None

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Performance/upgraded clutches are SOOOO much easier to shift smoothly with?

Just drove a Stage 2 Mk5 GTI and holy shit is this thing easy so much easier to drive manual with than my Jetta.

I’ve had my Jetta for five months and I haven’t been able to get my first to second shift down smoothly all the time. But with the GTI, I had it down within five seconds. Really much easier to smoothly shift with for some reason. The torque kinda carries you away.

So why is this? Makes me want to go Stage 2 on my Jetta....


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Kinja'd!!! Dsscats > jkm7680
06/22/2016 at 20:24

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Maybe it's just your shifting.


Kinja'd!!! jkm7680 > Dsscats
06/22/2016 at 20:25

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We switched cars and he commented how much harder the Jetta was to shift smoothly. Speaking of which, I’ve had multiple other people drive the car and comment how odd the clutch was.

But dunno, maybe.


Kinja'd!!! facw > jkm7680
06/22/2016 at 20:27

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Presumably, you are balancing performance, ease of use, durability, and cost. The OEM is going to be concerned mostly with cost, and to a lesser extent with the other factors. With an aftermarket part, you can shift those priorities.

This is going to be especially true in the US, where manual transmissions are generally considered the “value” option. There’s barely any market for them at all, so trying to offer a higher end one is going to be a vanishingly small nitch.


Kinja'd!!! jkm7680 > facw
06/22/2016 at 20:27

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Good explanation, thanks!


Kinja'd!!! Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > jkm7680
06/22/2016 at 20:32

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Feh. New cars. You know what’s really easy to shift? Something really really old and really really worn out.

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Kinja'd!!! Flyboy is FAA certified insane > jkm7680
06/22/2016 at 20:34

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Just drove around all day in a 2012 GLi. You’re right. The stock clutch is really hard to get right for some unexplained reason


Kinja'd!!! ClassicDatsunDebate > jkm7680
06/22/2016 at 20:35

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Performance clutches are the opposite of what you experienced. They typically have a quicker grab, a lighter flywheel and heavier pressure plate; all adding up to a grabby experience which requires much more throttle modulation to stay smooth. Maybe the GTI you drove had more HP and a stock clutch, making it more forgiving?


Kinja'd!!! jkm7680 > Flyboy is FAA certified insane
06/22/2016 at 20:35

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Yup, I don’t understand what it is.

In my Jetta, it’s just really light and engages really funny. Like I can find the g-spot, but it just doesn’t cooperate sometimes.


Kinja'd!!! jkm7680 > ClassicDatsunDebate
06/22/2016 at 20:36

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It wasn’t a stock clutch, but there was plenty of hp.


Kinja'd!!! Phyrxes once again has a wagon! > jkm7680
06/22/2016 at 20:38

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My wife’s manual corolla is like that, it has a really odd bite point and even my dad who has driven manuals for as long has he has been driving commented on when I asked him to drive it to make sure I wasn’t missing something.


Kinja'd!!! RiceRocketeer Extraordinaire > jkm7680
06/22/2016 at 20:52

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Uh, what? I had a “stage 4" clutch in my RSX and that sucked, and then a “stage 2" which also sucked. Basically they’re designed to hold high power, which means stronger pressure plates and grabbier friction materials, both things that would make driving at normal road speeds pretty irritating.


Kinja'd!!! vdub_nut: scooter snob > jkm7680
06/22/2016 at 21:55

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Kinja'd!!! DynamicWeight > jkm7680
06/23/2016 at 12:55

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Never underestimate having moar powah as well as the clutch type. More torque at a lower speed means the motor is less likely to buck. This is the problem with my CrossTrek, it has so little power that it falls on it’s face as soon as the clutch is all the way out. Very difficult to drive smoothly.